After pass the path ceases to be a road but a rocky area with no defined borders. Right goes to Taylor Park and Cottonwood Pass back to Buena Vista. Trail was good today. While this is not a hard trail, it is EXTREMELY rocky and this actually turns a lot of people away from it as you will feel pretty beat up by the time you get to the lake. The most important advice I can give is to have a vehicle that has a very high clearance and a good set of tires, oh, and a good spare! Please visit: https://www.chaffeecounty.org/Road-and-Bridge-OHV-Roads. Drove through water at the lake. Beginning at the St. Elmo Ghost Town, a bumpy, rocky road for approximately 4.5 miles travels west as it ascends the valley beside Chalk Creek. Tripadvisor performs checks on reviews. The road passes through the water on the southeast edge of Mirror Lake where the water levels will change depending on the time of year. From Buena Vista travel south on Highway 285 for approximately7 miles then turn right on County Road 162 and travel west, passing the Mt. Tires stayed dry at Mirror Lake. Some years, the entire road along the east side of the lake can totally be submerged due to spring runoff. Mirror lake is low enough that a Grand Cherokee can navigate it. There are some great lakes/reservoirs for fishing along the way, and Crested Butte is a doable drive. The best times to visit this trail are March through October. Want to report conditions for this trail? The rest of us had only minor issues which was mostly due to poor sleep and hunger. After the divide mark its not as rocky but the bumpiness continues. Saw moose in meadows along the road. Respect people and common courtesy. Share sensitive information only However, the fall is my favorite when the Aspens start the change. This is a trial that I have always wanted to do. This review is the subjective opinion of a Tripadvisor member and not of Tripadvisor LLC. Luckily for him, there were plenty of experienced wheelers there to get him back on the road. Still a few patches of snow that encroach onto the trail in a couple parts as you near the summit, but CORE has been through and hand shoveled the trail clear to make the pass open, Was easily done in a stock JKU with a few bumps and scrapes, just got to watch your lines in a few areas. Seconding what others have said, the route is in much worse shape than last year at about the same time. United States government. Following heavy winter snows, always call ahead to make sure pass is open or wait until later in July. Thank goodness for MORE skid plates. We really enjoyed the lake at the end of the trail. SALIDA RANGER DISTRICT OFFICE INFORMATION ONLY (M-F 8AM-4:30PM) 719-539-3591 5575 CLEORA RD SALIDA CO 81201 Phone Number For campground inquiries, please call: CAMPGROUNDS DO NOT HAVE PHONE SERVICE, CALLING TO CHECK AVAILABILITY PRIOR TO ARRIVAL IS NOT POSSIBLE. I did not drive Old Tincup which means the hardest obstacle for me today was a group of maybe 5 Jeeps parked in the complete middle of the trail, engines off, drivers hanging out in the gigantic camp site that they should have parked in. As expressed by many others, the views are great! We have taken our ATVs over a dozen times. Immediately after a parking area with a toilet, bear right and follow signs into St. Elmo. I ran the trail as part of the Set Them Free Off-road event which was held in the area during the first weekend of July. https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/psicc/recreation/camping-cabins/recarea/?recid=12668&actid=29, Pike-San Isabel National Forests & Cimarron and Comanche National Grasslands, https://www.chaffeecounty.org/Road-and-Bridge-OHV-Roads. Trail seems a little easier than the rating, but you still need to keep your brain engaged. Was a good time. on official, secure websites. I saw at least 20 vehicles make it all the way thru - stock and utvs. They were nearly out of merchandise. Cimarronand Comanche National Grasslands Scenic, enjoyable ride, but too much traffic for my tastes. ( We saw a moose in the open space just beneath there and enjoyed viewing several playful marmots after backing down in reverse for a little over a tenth of a mile. Many SXS's, lost count, but less than 10 other rigs. Beautiful views of some snow covered peaks! An ordinary stock Jeep, 4-wheel-drive vehicle or ATV is capable of reaching the top. Pass is now open, but be prepared for deep water on the tincup side. Located in Gunnison and San Isabel National Forest. My guess is that the water is not deeper than 20-22 inches at any point in the first two sections if you stay close but not necessarily hug the shoreline. This is a popular trail for camping and off-road driving, but you can still enjoy some solitude during quieter times of day. Beautiful trail from St Elmo up to pass. Mirror lake also makes for a nice spot to stop and have lunch or to stretch you legs out. The declining mining industry of the 1920s, and the discontinued railroad service drastically changed the town, and by 1952, even the postal service was discontinued. Recommended rides include Mount Antero, Baldwin Lake, Tincup Pass, Hancock Pass, Pomeroy Lakes, and Hancock Lakes. This trail is perfect for the novice Jeeper. But today Tincup Pass is one of the most popular 4-wheel-drive destinations in the region. Visitors can access the area by traveling on Highway 285 from either Buena Vista or Salida. This is not an easy place to get to. It took our group of 12 rigs roughly 3 hours to reach the pass from St. Elmo. Once above treeline, the trail narrows a bit with a few switchbacks that lead you across a shelf portion that can have snow covering it into early or even mid July. Head south on Highway 285 for 6 miles. Ran this as our final trip of the day after running Hancock and Cumberland first. No reservations are accepted. Coming down from the summit encountered more snow on the trail. rating. Most stock 4x4s with low range should be okay, with some careful tire placement. One short section of narrow shelf road often remains snow covered into early July. Can be steep and off-camber. It was a great time and Im still excited about the trip. Trees snapped through and or uprooted and deposited on the uphill opposing side of the valley. Nice mountain road with views. Mt. The cemetery is unique make time to explore it. Ran the trail from Tincup to St. Elmo in the rain. With the exception of Cumberland Pass from Pitkin, the rest of the passes are high-clearance 44 roads. Tincup is a cute town with lots of historical buildings. (719) 553-1400 The Chalk Creek Trailhead is about 2 miles east of the campground which gives hikers access to the extensive Colorado Trail, which extends nearly 500 miles . Tin Cup (Gunnison) - All You Need to Know BEFORE You Go. This entire mountain was once bustling with gold mines. With the snow melt the non snow covered areas of the trail is very soft and muddy.. it's going to be a little awhile before its ready for 4x4s. Forest Road 292 through the Iron City campground is open to registered OHV's. Wrangler 4L ALL the way, but slow and steady did it. We were passed by one family in a SxS who took the Old Tincup route, we saw them again at the pass and they said they came back out and up the "easier" route because it was so rough. This is the last spot the snow melts. Just follow the roads in, pick your patch of sand, and set up. Went from Mirror Lake and turned around at approximately waypoint 7. Turn around if snow blocks the road and come back another day. Afternoon rain showers greeted our trip back to Buena Vista. Just past Nathrop, head west on C.R. The hike is a lot harder than it seems, and I have not done it. Most Chaffee County roads do not permit OHVs with a few exceptions. Obstacles were moderate at times but for the most part an easy rocky trail . This trail has changed very little from year-to-year. Mirror lake had 3 sections that were still covered in water but none of them were more than 2 feet deep. 13 reviews #1 of 1 campground in Mahomet Save Share 1715 Tin Cup Rd, Mahomet, IL 61853-9331 Check In / / Check Out / / Guests Contact accommodation for availability. Only about 6" of water on the trail at Mirror Lake, the water was so clear that we could see many trout swimming about. But this area is over run with people on four wheelers. Everyone behaved but the big groups of UTVs really need to get radios to communicate to the front to pull over and let others pass once and a while. FIND YOUR WAY OUTSIDE is a trademark of AllTrails, LLC. We also did a short trail to Mary Murphy Mine nearby. Changes & Cancellations. While on the trail, we needed to rescue a vehicle that teetered over the edge of the road. My on-trail time was 3:15 a bit more than in the review above(I didn't take Old Tincup). enhance and customize your user experience, and to analyze how our Ran in 4 high and did not need 4 low or lockers. St. Elmo is a nice stop, but note the restroom is grose. Authentic Mining Town form the 1890's - Kind of a Ghost town. Turn west on County Road 162, traveling 8 miles to the Chalk Lake Campground. This giant loop makes for a long day, but it certainly is a fun one rich in history. The official start of the trail begins at FSR 267. no locker The trail starts out in the town of Tincup and climbs past the beautiful Mirror Lake on its way to the pass. And these trails are rough! M-F7:30 a.m. 4:30 p.m. $22 per site for overnight camping. Secure .gov websites use HTTPS A lock The trail down to St. Elmo isn't quite as interesting as the Tincup side. Great time! Plenty of places to pull over for photographs. Temps were in the 40s for the most part. Tincup is also very cool, read the history and see the old town pictures by the town Church. They are the Upper, Middle and Lower Taylor sections. connected to the .gov website. Pueblo, CO 81008 You can stay overnight at Mirror Lake Campground that offers 10 campsites and a restroom, not to mention the beautiful views of Mirror Lake and East Willow Creek. The entire trail is rough and rocky throughout. I have done this trail in a stock CJ-5 a few times. Starting off in St. Elmo was awesome. Drove Tincup on Wednesday afternoon, September 11th. We tried getting through in the Power Wagon, but no luck. Then road reappears and nice trip into lake and finally Tincup. We were able to walk across the snow field to the summit sign (Waypoint 7). ). Reservations are no longer available at Mirror Lake Campground. I visited Tincup Pass on 09/09/17 and had little trouble with the trail, so went back on 07/22/18 and found that the trail was a bit degraded due to erosion from the previous year, still I was able to drive the trail without using 4 whl drive. If you havent been 4 wheeling I could imagine thinking it is pretty sketchy. Once a popular mountain biking area, Tin Cup Pass has been overrun by motorized vehicles, but savvy bikepackers and backpackers venture along the relatively smooth Cumberland Pass, accessed from Tin Cup, which branches off to a handful of unmarked trails. Rocky but do-able with a stock vehicle. The north side of the pass is slightly more rocky than the south but is still relatively easy if you stay on the primary route. We take our time and enjoy the scenery. Accessibility: The dirt trail passes by scenic Gunnison & San Isabel National Forests, lush aspen groves, and rugged peaks. Did not do Old Tincup (heard there may be people stuck on it blocking the route). $8.00 fee for day use if not camping overnight. At the pass, youll be on the Continental Divide at 12,154 feet in elevation. (We did the standard route as we were traveling with a TJ and Cherokee Trailhawk KL with a 2" lift. United States. We ran Tincup Pass from St. Elmo to the town of Tincup then back. An interpretive sign at the entrance to the cemetery provides information on the early settlers and miners who are buried there. Camping is free with a Tonto Pass, available at local retailers around the city. Maximum 8 persons per site: 2 tents and 2 vehicles or 1 recreation vehicle (RV). Nothing technical but very bumpy. We go every year! We ran this trail both directions as the loop is closed. Nearby Gunnison National Forest and Kebler Pass are famous for beautiful fall foliage views. Tin Cup RV Park is set in the quaint village of Mahomet, Illinois. Mountain Biking Tincup Pass Road. The old section is most difficult, as appears seldom run as very overgrown. No gate-closures on this trail. Lifted 4Runner on 32's. The renegade drove a bit recklessly (he has learned from this) and ended up breaking on the trail. Please refer to. Bumpy and scenic drive all the way to Tincup. Campers who are unable to find a campsite in one of the four developed campground may camp above the townsite of St. Elmo on 4x4 Road 267. 2840 Kachina Drive On the down side of the pass we stopped at Mirror Lake before entering into the town of Tin Cup. Last time I was there, there were no restaurants or services. Directions: From Highway 285, turn west on County Road 162, past the Mt. If you want to push it a little, old tincup will offer some challenge to aggressive stock trail vehicles like the Rubicon, Pro4X, TRD, Z71 models and built trail vehicles of all makes. At times the road was more of a river, which on other trails would have been more difficult, but you still have decently wide trails. I have been a trail leader several times for events such as All-4-Fun, ColoradoFest, Set Them Free, 14er Fest, and others. My rig is built for extreme offroading, but I love to get my tires dirty on any kind of trail whether it's rock crawling or just scenic high Alpine drives. Watch for moose. Visit stay the trail people. Amazing on the UTV even though extremely busy. I met up with a group of dirt bikers that I work with at Taylor Park and ran the trail as simultaneously as is practical with a Jeep vs bikes - meaning I went through Tincup and they took a side trail to Mirror Lake, and I waited for them at the summit, then waited for them again for dinner in BV while they did another singletrack route. If both passes are still closed, we won't get much riding in. I suspect that it was snowing up higher. Open all the way. Later in the season, wildflowers peak in Crested Butte. Iron City campground is popular spot for OHV riders because registered ATV's and motorcycles can ride from the campground to access points for Tincup Pass, Hancock Pass, Pomeroy and Hancock Lakes and Williams Pass. Rented a Jeep (my K5 is back in So Cal for a one ton swap) and passed through Mirror Lake without issue - Jeep was a stock JKU without lift on Rubicon takeoff wheels/tires. It rained all night of the 18th, so that may have changed the water level of Mirror Lake. Saw about 12 moose in the creek valley. You could get up to Mirror Lake in a car with some clearance (Subaru), but beyond that I was glad to have 4 wheel drive and solid clearance. The picturesque, remote drive passes through the San Isabel and Gunnison national forests. We tried to plow through the 3' snow drift with no luck. MODERATE, 6 - Difficulty Accuracy: Water at the crossing point was real low, so should be no issues for anyone. Made it almost to Waypoint 5. Crazy! $8.00 for a third vehicle. Not sure when those pictures were taken, but the road is a lot more rocky and degraded than those pictures suggest. "It helps us learn more about our culture," Sillitt . The road at Mirror Lake is under a reported 9 feet of water. The Tincup Pass 4x4 Road forms the final leg of the Alpine Tunnel loop, but it continues beyond the junction with the trail and could make for a great gravel grind. The trail was wide enough for 2 cars in this spot, but they parked right in the middle. Iron City campground has 15 sites and is locatedwithin walking distance ofthe historic townsite of St. Elmo. The road to the summit is totally unpaved. No water on the trail. Almost ready to summit. I turned around a little bit before the turnoff for old tin cup jeep trail. This late in the season there was no water to drive through. Overview A beautiful high-elevation route starting and ending at historic, quaint mountain towns. This is an old mining town. I started about 7:30 in the morning. St. Elmo is a true ghost town that was built during the mining boom of the 1880's, while Tincup, originally called Virginia City, has been resurrected as a popular summer destination with many historic buildings still in use today. It is located near the historic townsite of St. Elmo. Cave Creek Regional Park. I turned around with my ATV after about a mile just because it was not very fun. Travel west on CR 162 for 16 miles to the junction with CR 292, just east of the historic townsite of St. Elmo. With a dump station, private showers, and plenty of sites to choose from, you're bound to enjoy your camping experience. Ran this on a Sunday afternoon from Tin Cup to St Elmo. I do tend to disagree with the bottom end of the difficulty being a 3. Cimarronand Comanche National Grasslands These campgrounds range from public to private, and primitive to . When we did this trail, there was a sign to divert us from doing the rougher section. Had to pull to the side a lot for SXS's to pass. Made it about 4.5 miles in from St Elmo. Once traveled by wagons, Tincup Pass is one of Colorado's most popular 4x4 destinations. Dispersed Camping closures on Tincup pass and in Irwin area. Made it through all sections at Mirror Lake with a Jeep Sport with high clearance and 35" tires although stock can probably make it fine. The road enters the heart of St. Elmo at twelve miles. While in Tincup have lunch at Frenchy's Cafe. Excellent trail! This is a small campground with 15 campsites. aware of changes. 97% of travelers recommend this experience. From Johnson Village, head south on Highway 285 about 6 miles. Frenchy's is their local restaurant and shouldn't be passed up on an empty stomach. Large parking area at north end of Mirror Lake. Anything 4x4 with a semi decent driver should make it just fine. We did this in 2wd the entire way. View your favorite zones in 3D. I am a huge supporter of Stay the Trail and Tread Lightly, and have participated and even been in charge of many trail restoration projects. Tincup is a small residential community with many century-old buildings. Cons Few resupply options Trailhead Elevation 9,270.00 ft (2,825.50 m) Highest point 12,853.00 ft (3,917.59 m) Features Near lake or river Backcountry camping Wildlife Fishing Big vistas Big Game Watching Wildflowers Bird watching Typically multi-day Yes Locals say it likely will not be passable this year. The Taylor Park Trading Post and the small town of Tincup are your best bet for cabins in the upper park. DIFFICULT, Gunnison National Foresat & San Isabel National Forest. A large snow field still sits on the road waiting for the sun to do it's deed. The road continues along the east side of Mirror Lake. Road has always been in pretty good shape for me. Nothing about it gets too hard until after treeline. The scenery is great and the folks we met while traversing the Pass were great and mindful of the rules of the road. The main route has some fun challenges both directions that will really test your vehicle if you're running anything close to stock. In the early 1800s, the town had over 1,400 residents who scoured the hills above Taylor Park looking for gold and silver. Trails were busier than I expected for a Tuesday. There are also a couple of alternate routes that would make for more difficulty and excitement. The homes have been updated to what they used to be. When a trail is this popular I suppose youre bound to see some people with awful trail etiquette. Note that while potable water is not provided, Willow Creek can supply water if you bring a filter. We drove up to Tincup Pass from the Tincup/Taylor Reservoir side. 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