Great idea ! you should be very proud of your accomplishment! 0000029749 00000 n If youd like to write a guest post for this blog, please email me at blogger@pyramydair.com. It appears to be a Chinese clone of the Beeman P3/HW40 which cost EIGHT TIMES as much as this one. Great mod! ConsThis single stroke pumper takes some muscle to close. i cannot figure out how to load these pellets! I actually cut like 3 inches off the spring and velocity didnt slow down. Anything that displaces the volume of air in the pistons firing chamber, which is inside the firing valve, will do this. Super accurate. The cocking effort does increase in the last inch or two of compression. The Beeman P17 has a rifled steel barrel, and all its mechanical parts like the trigger, safety, and hammer are cast aluminum made. Any tips on how to make it lighter? %%EOF For my purposes, I limit the effort to deburring the barrel opening where pellets are inserted because the pellets tend to snag on the sharp edge when the gun is new. The rear sight is adjustable for windage. So long trigger kills the hell out of my accuracy at 15yrds. Loading pellets is a HUGE PAIN -- unless you get some angled tip tweezers which makes it a breeze. You reach us by our contact form on the page contact us. Once the gun is cocked, the safety automatically switches to a safe position. It has a Polymer frame that is both durable and lightweight. Ending Apr 6 at 3:00PM PDT 4d 17h. Silencer or sound moderator (sometimes euphemistically known as a "Lead Dust Catcher" or LDC). The automatic safety is above the trigger guard. 0000060807 00000 n When you take a look at the inside of the barrel, you will realize it is thicker than it has to be. An air pistol is any pistol that can fire projectiles without using gunpowder. First, it is important to choose the right type of planter and support system for your plants. 0000001565 00000 n E-mails to Customers service are never answered. ConsUnderpowered to kill possums at 2 feet. The primary purpose I enjoy doing with this gun I find useful as a precision machine that hits targets accurately within my range. Has anyone ever shot more than a few DARTS through this gun? I must emphasize this enough. 0000020428 00000 n Absolute wonderful 2 stage trigger. Take care not to target people, animals, buildings, and objects near you. I will mention it to my broheim. The pictures are .jpg, about 60 kb and sent from a Dell PC. Write me at chevota at hotmail and I'll send some pix. The piston needs to have a section cut off to create the check valve/valve face end (doing this you already hve the required o-ring gland!). ). If you are thinking about buying this, just get it! you can make the one you have passable with work I just do.) 0000001459 00000 n Even though no where on the web site does it say that shooting DARTS is possible with the P17, the advertising constantly pushes the idea. Hey, gang. I will post some pics later today of the parts. Beeman P17 Reliability. Having a spare sure won't hurt. This thermocouple is universal to fit many gas boilers. Do you actually get enough compression at that reduced stroke? Cloud (IPV4:L999). The P17 is known as being relatively accurate and reliable, it comes with adjustable sights, a rail for an aftermarket optic or laser and it does not need C02 cartridges or an air tank to operate. Copyright 1999-2022 Pyramyd Air. Amazon and the Amazon logo are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc, or its affiliates. Referer: Used RWS Supermags to zero and split card. I do not care for it one bit! Well, looks like I'm going to answer the P3 vs P17 question myself! (No other site) does this. There isnt very much room in there. The pinching is the most dangerous part of this gun. Sadly I can't find any for sale in the EU, possible due to Beeman's licensing deal with Weihrauch. A bit finicky to load. The top strap will not fully close to lock and thus be in the firing position. I will post some pics later today of the parts. They have better precision and accuracy, more consistent power, and triggers that are very sweet and predictable compared to the P17. My brain works the same way once I evaluate something. Wear a leather glove and cock on a flat surface easy. I must admit I am comfortable handling my Beeman P17 because I use it consistently and reliably. It also does not require CO2 to fire making it easy to use. Thanks for the range report. They have incorporated plastic light tubes which create 2 green dots on the rear sight and one red dot on the front sight. There is the modified brass sleeve, next to the valve stem and spring in the disassembled P17 valve assembly. All rights reserved. 0000057099 00000 n or an orange flash hider to avoid the guns being mistaken for firearms. Tom Wagner's Varieties: A Gardener's Guide All it does is make me frustrated and angry. the casing acts as a spring guide , thus keeping the spring from bulgging out to the side. Space is cramped, and there is not much space to properly hold the pellet to push it into the barrel. Is this a bb or pellet gun and would a 11 year boy be able to cock it? Thanks, Bob. Service 4.3. 0000002812 00000 n The high velocity was 375.3 and the low velocity was 362.9. Or, am I? at significant range (20 - 30 yards). I'm always looking for used bargains in either the P17 or the P3, and they all reside in my kit to shoot in the backyard at a moment's notice. He tells us how he got more velocity out of his Beeman P17. So, I ordered another. No modifications we show are really authorized, unless the manufacturer explicitly states it. Suggestions for alternative sights are also welcome. The trigger mechanism is complex and you can't just tug at it. Daniel Defense firearms, parts and accessories. This takes a little force. Hmm, Some people have been adding a longer barrel as a mod to increase velocity, if you couple this mod with a 4 inch barrel I wonder where it would be. This report is an important part of the Beeman P17 series, so I am linking it to the other reports we have done on the pistol. Got me a Beeman P17 single stroke pneumatic pistol and boy I think after shooting it I really truly believe it is the best ever bang for the buck. The p 17 cost a lot less, is made in China and is not finished as nicely. Includes automatic safety, and rear sight is adjustable for windage and elevation. If anything, the compressed airflow is smoother. Hmmm Made to measure, as my dear departed father used to say. Loading the Beeman P17 for the first time took me some bit of time. dave, Streetmusician, Been shooting the P17 #1. Thanks. The Beeman P17 is among the most versatile air pistols you can get in the market. If you want more heat fry some Serrano peppers and onions in hot oil. The compressed air force in the pistol is higher. I wonder if that black o-ring is getting blow by with that increased spring pressure. Shooting the Beeman P17 might become your new obsession. It's a bit easier to cock, the edges are not sharp like on the p17, so they don't dig into your hand when cocking it. Would you happen to know the precise measurement to cut the sleeve down to or how would I know to get the exact clearance? Stripped Query: Loctite can fix this. Is this compatible with steel tip umarex darts? Or a side by side shoot off In other words, the piston bottoms out before the gun closes. The question now becomes will this work with the P3? It comes with a molded muzzle brake, but I doubt if they are necessary or function in the Beeman P17. Mods Discussion. On both p17's the trigger failed with a week. However the body is a high quality plastic and it's steel reinforced over the full length. good enough. Other than possibly. About one full turn out is sufficient. The wrong sights are shown in the image. ProsAir gun reviews 0000005744 00000 n It'll make sense when you see it. Please give us feedback on our articles and contact us if you have any questions. The HW75 has quite a small chamber already and making it too small might impede on the valve opening. Push the safety fully forward. Might try it out on mine. IP Address: 64.90.50.250 Get the best deals on Beeman when you shop the largest online selection at eBay.com. Its look good, shoots better. Please enter the relevant details below, and click the "Submit Trouble Ticket" button to send it to us. The automatic safety is what I like the most about the Beeman P17. Was able to slowly get from 2.5# pull (new) down to 1# in 1\4# increments with slight tweaks between each of the small trigger sear's 8-coil spring loops. P3 or P17, nah. There is also a set of fully adjustable open sights, and they have fiber-optic inserts to enhance them. huntingheart.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.Privacy Policy, How to Cock, Load and Close Your Air Pistol, Why I Enjoy Shooting with this Air Pistol, Most Popular Handgun Accessories for Your Beeman P17 Air Pistol. It's that time of year again when gardeners all over the world are planning what to grow in their gardens. 0000060903 00000 n I've got my Beeman P17 pistol. Here is the P17 valve assembled, with the new spacer in place. Owning one will transform your days as you get to enjoy fun outdoor activities. I consider the P17 like a Bic lighter !! The piston looks simple to replicate. The p3 is much better quality. Now, it is a straightforward process of assembling the P17 valve, with the new brass spacer in place. Longterm it's junk. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. This pistol should sell well for many years. Way to go on thinking outside the box too! Have a P3 coming at a good price (1\2 US MSRP). There's also a Model 1327 which has a 2,000 PSI fill pressure and QB78-style trigger and stock. Reminds me of when I did the spring cutting on a magnum spring gun to reduce spring preload. The trigger action is excellent. At the same time, lift on the barrel assembly with the free hand and pivot it forward. I chronographed (10) shots from the reduced compression P17. The reason(s) your connection was interrupted are:Bothost and/or Server Farm. Thats to much time consuming. retaining the valve in our Crosman guns. Also, compressed air and grease are present in this tiny space, so anything you add does not seem to last very long. I was not sure how the HW75 is put together on the inside. hit me up with an email in the contact form if you have any questions. Copyright 1999-2023 Pyramyd Air. - To load the Beeman P17, you have to pull the trigger and open the top all the way. The design and functionality mimic the Beeman P3, which costs slightly over $ 200. 432 reviews. It may be a limitation, but on the positive side, the strength required to cock it helps prevent smaller children from using it unsupervised. Would you know how to solve the problem? To release the safety is also easy and all you have to do is to push the safety button located just over the trigger guard, until the red point appears. Reply HELP for help and STOP to cancel. 0000004389 00000 n I found the shape of the grip comfortable for my hands as they are medium-sized. I have spent thousands of hours hunting hogs and training hunting dogs, but Im always learning new stuff and really happy to be sharing them with you! Please Note: You must be 18 years of age or older to order and conform to all laws governing the use and ownership of airguns in your local area. Privacy Policy. Get FREE shipping on qualifying orders! 55 0 obj <> endobj The space from the top of the original O ring brass spacer to the underside of the top flange of the valve stem measured 9.0 mm. JavaScript is disabled. by a minimum 1-year manufacturer's warranty from the date of purchase unless otherwise noted on the product page. I have an issue with the number of pumps and the cocking effort. This isn't the first one I've had, and I really missed the last one after I sold it. I too cannot say for sure because I have never seen a P3 or HW40 in person, but looking at pix of those guns in the open position I cannot see any difference except the chrome and of course the name on the side. Always be sure of where you are pointing your gun. I am using RWS pellet 8.3grains, 400fps. The Beeman P17 uses a two-stage design. All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General. It will give them an idea if they can handle a real weapon. I would believe the P3 would handle this better due to better materials and better build quality . Cheap and effective. Custom shaped, finger groove grip helps improve shooting comfort and aids with accuracy. Your first and last stop for all things Crosman. Just out of interest, Universal thermocouples are 3.60p to buy. Copper has been known to kill tomato plants if placed directly into the stem or base, but placing copper wire around the wound may not have the same effect. Mine was rather tight but worked, still I sanded the wire a bit so the sear had room to move freely. The gun also smelled from some chemical and the package stated stated that the gun contained substances known to cause cancer. Hi ladies/gents. Maybe BB will do a series on the 1377 too, from mild to wild. As far as I can remember he has never signed into the blog under that name, but that is his handle. 0000004911 00000 n Terms of Use, Leapers Elite Tactical Leg Holster, Right Handed, Gamo Cone Pellet Trap + 100 FREE Target Cards, Crosman Premier Ultra Magnum .177 Cal, 10.5 gr - 500 ct, JSB Diabolo Exact Heavy .177 Cal, 10.34 gr - 500 ct, RWS Diabolo Basic .177 Cal, 7.0 gr - 300 ct, RWS Meisterkugeln .177 Cal, 8.2 gr - 500 ct. Click here for California's Proposition 65 warning. so not sure what is going on. Additionally, we are a factory-authorized repair/warranty station for popular brands such as That was two years ago. It's up to you to research and comply with the laws in your state, county, and city. Buy it while it's on sale. Better triggers, longer barrels, adjustable pistons, pistons with 2 o rings. Tom Wagner's varieties of tomatoes have been a hit among gardeners for years. Then again, my optics birding\hunting arsenal (Swarovski & Zeiss) wasn't cheap either!! 0000005408 00000 n Msg frequency may vary. Your name: The trigger is smooth and light out of the box.Balance and fits my hand. Query: Only took a little bit to zero.. sights are adjustable for wind & elevation. View Service Info, Shop and purchase with confidence knowing that all of our air guns (except airsoft) are protected What are the issues in using a "cupped" seal? You cock it, and while it's 'broken open' you load one pellet. Of course it goes without saying that your laptop is also logged in on an account (so I said it anyway)? ConsClosing the lever is a blood blister nightmare. 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