Greetings from Winchester, VA. For many years I have mowed my 3 acre yard with an old 1970s Bolens QS16. Yes, The only real solution is to upgrade the transmission. The guys who race lawn tractors do this with MANUAL transmissions. For example, a 10-inch pulley on the engine and a 5-inch pulley on the transmission would make it go faster. This is not a common problem. The biggest issue is it pushes the tractor in a straight line. Hi Bryan, 1. The front end is weak and a lot of the last ones made needed the toe-in fixed right out of the box so make sure it has the full warranty. Im not really concerned about the mowing part. Thy list the 20390 as an auto. The TS354D, Troy-Bilt GT, Craftsman Pro GT and the Cub Cadet GT tractors have a heavy duty garden tractor trans. Thank you, First question. After much research, I pulled the trigger on a Simplicity Prestige for my hilly and uneven yard but spent $8000 on it. DES CR IPTION TUFF TORQ PART NO KEY NO. I just posted my review of that tractor. That is the primary reason why zero-turn mowers cost more than the lawn tractors. consist of batteries, electronic controllers and electric motors. Free shipping. If you put very small pullies, for example, say 2, on the engine and rear pinion, would the tractor go faster? Right? That said, A good garden tractor with a heavy duty transmission that will last many years is going to be around $3000. Both of these are heavier than the under $2500 bunch and will last considerably longer. I was wondering if I put one or both of the new blades in upside down (or even the same on the old blades after sharpening them). B.C. I have a Craftsman 19HP, Model 917.20380 42 riding mower, purchased new in 2014. They are tough but General Transmissions does not have one for Garden Tractors yet. It is a good, dependable transmission when used properly. I have about 4 acres, flat, not too many obstacles. Lawn Tractor Transmission Types Updated: January 2014. 21 HP Briggs & Stratton Automatic gas Front Engine Riding mower (from Home Depot), and comparing it to a Craftsman of the same HP and deck size. Used parts are sometimes available, but rarely cheap. JavaScript is disabled. Cant be the clutch because it initially engaged when we changed the fuse, and it never made any noises prior to this to indicate any problems. Hi Marvin, The E160/170 uses the same transmission as you had in the Bronco. Take it back! New parts are expensive but readily available. 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The price difference is down to around $50, so thats not really an issue. Again thanks for your time and most valuable experience. Many years ago I used a JD 212 w/ a 4spd manual and the manual suited me fine. New parts are expensive but readily available. The biggest issue people were having the trans has been replaced this year with a more dependable unit (thats why the model number change). I am currently looking at either a manual or automatic transmission model, but wondering about the reliability and maintainability aspects of the two compare. Yes, I feel you will kill it because pushing the BERCO is heavy. Based on what Ive read, Im pretty sure that youll recommend that I go with the hydro, but I want to make sure Im not missing something important. The yard is relatively flat, will the xp 50 be able to handle it with its transmission or do I need to step up to the super bronco GT? Im looking at the Craftsman T1800 (model #20376) with 42 inch deck and Koehler 20hp motor. lower gears different gear ratios? Over the Husqvarna GT52XLS (equal price): It is only available in the same Kohler engine as the XT2. Adapting the larger K71 fan would require centering and drilling 3 holes on the K46 pulley. New Lot of 2 OEM Tuff Torq Transmission Axle Oil Seal 187T0134280 for K46 & T40. I have an 1/2 acre with mostly hills with some trees and bushes. 20 V-Twin HP Briggs & Stratton Automatic Gas Front-Engine 960460063, Craftsman 19HP 46" KOHLER Turn Tight Hydrostatic Yard Tractor - Non CA 15" X 6" - 6", Craftsman 19HP 42 Turn Tight Hydrostatic Yard Tractor Non CA 1 Acre and Above, The 10 Most Popular Posts Of 2013 - TodaysMower - TodaysMower.com, Cub Cadet LTX 1045, LTX 1046 Riding Lawn Tractor Review - TodaysMower.com | TodaysMower.com, The Best Residential Zero Turn? Home Depot: John Deere E160 48 in. Which engine is best? I am pretty sure Cub Cadet has a better warranty program. They seem to be quite sturdily built. Thanks you again for your very informative site. Thats why Im here to help you find the best for you. Would you recommend it for mowing, light to medium pulling? I want one that sounds like my old car! That is really what is going on with most of the reviews of the CVT. Yup, Tuff Torq went from a 10w30 to a 5w50 synthetic recommendation. Right, you pull back on the handle. Would this be a cvt variable pulley type? Perhaps buy a used Deere. It will not go up a hill. Randy. How important would traction control compared to the transmission be in your opinion? The pedal on the left side of the tractor is the parking brake. Mark. Tools Needed Sealant scraper Screw driver Torque wrench 12 mm socket Ratchet or impact gun Hi Clayton, The direct replacement for you LT1750 is the 25081. That little Cub Cadet actually uses a transmission from a much larger tractor so in this case its over built. Ariens makes some great equipment but in this case this Ariens lawn tractor is made a cheaply as possible so HD can pull you away from Craftsman and all the others. 24 HP V-Twin ELS. The 27038 is a good tractor for the price. Its a perfect tractor if you want to attach a snow blade. The 5 speed is another option. The tuff Torq site lists the specs on a comparison chart. I have been looking at the Poulan Pro PB20A46 with the 20 HP Kohler engine and the cvt transmission. Realistically, when youre shopping for a riding lawn mower, the transmission wont be the first factor you consider. I have two that are great choices. Electric Riding Mower Lithium-Ion and Lead Acid Battery- 10 Best Tips. Looking for your advise on whether to try to figure out the mohawk issue on the Simplicity, or keep the D130, or look for something that is better suited for the hills. Thats 150 lbs. Thanks for your help Paul. I want a gear-manual style shift and not a peddle style. (doing this right, requires some knowledge, and special tools $$$, but removing the engine requires far fewer steps than number 1!) Often called Manual transmissions this type uses a series of gears to change the ground speed of your tractor. I have Castrol Edge 5w50 in my K66 and it has been great. The difference in the two input shafts is that the K71 is threaded at the top rather than entirely splined. If you want a manual transmission (a real one not an inline 6 speed) youll have to go to a sub-compact tractor. Thanks. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an . We are stumped. Safety-wise the hydro is the easiest to learn and if you get in trouble just lift your foot off the pedal and the tractor will stop. If you get nowhere with those 2 companies find a dealer in your area that uses the ARI Parts network. Marlton, NJ. Cub Cadet is using it on all of the 2015 Enduro series and Troy-Bilt lawn tractors. The TT site lists about 15 K46 versions, not all are Deere specific. Am looking at replacing it now. Until then want to keep in mowable with a ZTM. Thanks so much. Craftsman 54 Fast Auto 24 HP Briggs & Stratton V-Twin Turn Tight Garden Tractor. As of right now Craftsman is the only brand that has this CVT. If you want a striping kit I suggest going to your Simplicity dealer and looking at the Broadmore or Conquest tractors. K46. They use and inline gear selector instead of the old H-pattern. The second article has some questions and answers at the end. The new Gator blades are almost 1/8 longer than the originals, and the mohawk eventually showed up on the original blades as well (not sure when it happenedafter sharpening the old blades? MTD has their own CVT. To stop, pull them back. There are already commercial models that will mow all day long on a single charge. We have 4 dealers, not talking box stores, within a 25 mile radius. Do narrower decks, e.g. Thanks in advance for your advice & time. Save. (In higher gears it will pop the front wheels off the ground) I expect the belt to fail completely sometime this year. What do you think about it and about the new EFI engine? Dont use this transmission to pull heavy loadsyou will tear up the friction wheel. 13. Hi Paul; If the dealer cant help I suggest contacting Hydro-Gear directly. I have the transmsision shown in video # 2, gentrans RS 800, the gear selector cam shown at 1.10 sec has shattered ,where can I gat a replacement cam? Do you know of any true manual shift gear drives? Its commercial-grade, and I recall reading it has some of the strongest hydro motors you can buy; so I have no concern for that mower (other than the KawasakiIve never cursed at one object so muchsorry, cant express how much I hate that mill). I have a 1/3 of an acre flat but I weigh over 300 lbs, I was told that a garden tractor would carry myweight better. ), Hey Paul, Just stumbled upon your fabulous website while trying to research Zero Turn mowers. Do you know anything about these T2s? Come join the discussion about towing, PTOs, reviews, attachments, modifications, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! @Anthony, as of right now Craftsman is the only brand that has this CVT. When you press on the left pedal it releases tension on the transmission drive belt. I cant find any true manual transmission mowers built in 2018. Go back to the dealer where you purchased the tractor to get the parts. The Regent is just a normal lawn tractor with a high price tag so the dealer can make a profit. Does your local SearsHomeTown Store still have one? A forum community dedicated to John Deere tractor owners and enthusiasts. But the hydros with foot controls on all the Craftsman mowers comes with cruise control and drives very similar to a car so many people like that. Update: I am pretty set on the Cub Cadet XT2 GX54. It broke after about 20 min. They use the K58 trans in the Troy-Bilt GTs and I am not aware that it is even available with ELD. @Anthony, Yes, the 20374 is a light duty CVT that uses the variable speed pulley. To be honest, new Craftsman owners have been keeping me almost too busy to write for the last few weeks. The Cub Cadet tractors I showed you will do the job and last but they are twice the money you have budgeted. Get outdoors for some landscaping or spruce up your garden! This technology is beneficial because it uses less fuel to mow your lawn and is quieter than using lawn tractors with larger engines. To see how tough these new transmissions really are check out spot 1:27 in the next video! I dont want to spend $2,500 or more for a garden tractor with a K58 or better hydrostatic transmission. I know this is land engagement but thought maybe since they kind of push as they go along that maybe they would be ok? As an owner the only maintenance you have to do is periodically clean the outside of the case with a leaf blower or garden hose. So the manufactures listened and changed from the heavy, cumbersome tractors to lightweight tractors that mowed well, mowed faster, turned easier and didnt cause damage to our lawns. And are made in Kansas. Either a fender mounted lever or foot control varies the speed and direction just like the hydro transmission you are used to. You are used to the fact that lifter noise means the engine is going bad. Just checking to see if anyone has heard of any K66 reverse problems. Really makes me appreciate how great that Craftsman has been to us; unfortunately, it also now has me worried about using it as we have all these yearshence, my questions above . $14.50 shipping. Im looking at purchasing a Poulan Pro 42 in. There are already commercial models that will mow all day long on a single charge. Hi Evan, A hill generally rules out a zero-turn so you should go with a lawn tractor. Hi Jason, That tractor does not use the RS800 CVT. @Dixie, The guys over at mytractorforum would be able to help you more than I can. So do you think the Craftsman t240 46 inch deck will be better than the t260 50 inch deck? CVT Automatic Transmissions. How as a consumer would I know if a machine has a light or heavy duty cvt auto transmission? Hi Randy, The Cub Cadet 42, Craftsman 27333 46 inch and the Troy-Bilt Super Bronco 42 inch are all the same lawn tractor. Shifting gears on a hill is tough. Do any of the Husquvarna GT models use the K66 or heavier in their equipment? (Do you ever rate/review the Simplicity mowersI did not see it on a search of Todaysmowers.comI was impressed they used Vangard and Command enginesback in the day). Hi Paul, Ive been using a Troybilt Super Bronco 50 cut with the Kohler KT725 24HP engine for 4 years. A garden tractor transmission is heavier duty and can be used not only for mowing but ground engaging tasks like pulling a DR Power Grader/a>. Next, place one rear wheel on the ground and spin the free wheel. Tuff Torq K46AC E170, E180. These drive systems have been engineered from the ground up for the demands of heavier and more function-rich mower and tractor applications. Hi Phillip, What lawn baggers will work I want a three bag but they are \telling me they only have a two bag version for the 27038, but I see a three bag version on the site that fits42-46 mowers ?? Now Im not totally taking his word for it at this point, as you know how that can turn out. 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